Where we went wrong is using the highly recommended Bona Traffic HD as our finish coat poly. The floor finisher used a duraseal stain and 3 coats of Loba Easy Coat satin. But if the second estimate has 3 coats that are applied thinner than the 2 coat rate, then it will most likely be a more durable floor. Hi Becky. I haven't tried to fix it, but it might be able to be buffed out. I love the look of those floors but Im curious if they are a #1 white oak versus a #2 which is what we have in installed. The finish does have to be applied properly according to the instructions 100% and then let cure completely. Maybe that's how all floors are and I've just never had the luxury of being home this much to let it build up, but it annoyed me to see my beautiful floors look like that. It is a PERFECT circle. Below are a few of the custom colors we have done with hardwax oils over the years. If you just apply a clear water base finish to Red Oak it can look dull, flat and lifeless. It obviously wants to go VERY dark. When it's damp and a little bit shinier during cleaning, I can see very light scratches, but once it's dry, you'd never see it at any angle. Thanks for the photo. It has some surface build and can be restored every six months with a new maintenance coat. If you dont want a lot of sheen then it could be perfect for boys and dogs. Try to get successive coats of the Loba 2K Supra AT down within 24 hours of each other. It kind of defeats the purpose of the Invisible Protect. 2. Using EasyPrime first would prevent it. except it's a very durable coating that will protect these well used floors. With 1008sf (94sm) this should have taken 1-2 days depending on how many people on the job site. 49 Abs. Add to Cart Loba Cleanfix. Well, spring of 2020 was finally that time! The almost invisible layer is also extremely scratch resistant, thanks to the use of high-quality raw materials. Bona waterborne wood floor sealers offer excellent . I built a log home myself 15 years ago, and I installed heart pine floors throughout the entire home, including kitchens and bathrooms. Your Loba Australia Rep. might not be as up to date as the US side of things. Told them the gap would be more pronounced because of color and can't really fill them with the seasonal movements. To get scientific testing data for all the finishes available (there are hundreds) and then compare them in every wear situation would be a huge and very expensive undertaking. From your description, I take it he worked alone? Your refinisher failed to tell you about the length of time you needed to be off the floor. The 30-inch by 26-inch section was never finished as the prior stove's paneling almost touched the floor. And unlike high quality surface finish systems, hardwax oil finishes need to be properly maintained and refreshed several times throughout their life to maintain their protective coating. Meeting with our flooring sub today. The first week was very bad. Technically Loba EasyFinish is a 2 coat system over their primer. Natural texture and feel are similar to untreated wooden floors. 3. Also, once you start getting past about a 13 to 15 mil thickness on your total layers, the longevity of the coating is compromised. White Oak needs a sealant. Yes you can buy it from floor supply distributors here in the States. 2 1/4 select Red Oak finished with Loba Invisible Protect 2k. Also my back door has a covered deck that i figured i could open the door with. Its a better option than using a lower quality finish and still not having a perfect match. Either would be good but yes the Supra is more durable with the ceramic in it. If you want it LIGHTER then you will need to bleach the floor (Brazilian Cherry has the same tones and the same photosensitivity as your wood = bleached twice works well). Water based poly will cause tannin pull in white oak. What color stain would you put on your floors to eliminate these colors? What do you recommend? We paid a contractor to do the job he didnt share or show us the product he used. Just 2 coats from the same bottle and Loba WS 2K Invisible will provide the most natural "uncoated looking" finish available with the ultimate protection and silky . For normally and particularly heavily trafficked floors. She selected rift and quarter sawn white oak with a water-based sealer to keep the space bright without competing with the other wood tones. (BTW, our prefinished flooring is by Bruce, and is a natural red oak strip with square edges (no bevels at all) and a low gloss finish. My flooring person has never used either system, although they are otherwise experienced in flooring. Your email address will not be published. Hi, Im getting ready to refinish my red oak floors and was going to use Glitsa because it seems to be so durable. Outstanding chemical and wear resistance. So do yourself a favour and remove the rugs. In order to give you a better service this Website uses cookies. 1 S. 1 a DSGVO, Art. The almost invisible layer is also extremely scratch resistant, thanks to the use of high-quality raw materials. 1 S. 1 TTDSG Empfnger der Daten: Google LLC, Alphabet Inc. (beide USA) bermittlung in Drittstaaten: Ja Manahme nach Art. One is a clear coating and the other has an amber hue due to the oil in it. I wouldn't open a door unless it is screened because you don't want dust or bugs getting trapped in the wet coating. I ended up getting a Bissell Spinwave mop that I run every other weekend between the weeks when my housekeeper comes. What to know? Ive been on the search for a Rubio-finished engineered floor to use over hydronic heat in our rehabbed farmhouse for several months. Have you ever done 2 coats of Invisible Protect AT with a top coat of Supra Satin AT on top for some sheen? They are well trained to perform inspections and write reports that hold up in Canadian/US courts. Working within a budget is reality for most of us when remodeling our homes. Sounds like a good choice for the type of floors you have, Brazilian Cherry is beautiful and water based finishes work extremely well with them. I'm currently coating multiple planes of cabinetry with 2K Supra AT and have found that a new coating easily rolls off of a side that has already cured if there is any overlap, and that is after several days of the new layer being finished. Traffic HD is a great water based system. Personally I would move to a SINGLE COAT of Loba 2K Supra AT in Satin (or semi-gloss) and move on. But that still leaves the field pretty wide open as there are many different brands and products among those three groups. Best Finish For The Most Natural Looking White Oak Floors Mommy To Max. The finish used is called Loba Invisible Protect. If you want something completely out of the ordinary and unique then youll definitely want to consider this option. If you are going with Bona then you will probably have to sand everything down to the raw wood and start again.yahnot fun but it is the most responsible way to ensure a properly bonded finish. If you just apply a clear water base finish to Red Oak it can look dull, flat and lifeless. From initial testing and use, it looks really good. The only concern I have is your contractor who doesnt have much experience with water-based finishes. You really should have 3 coats of Traffic HD if you do NOT have a sealant. Thanks so much! I have been researching oils and you seem to be the online expert of oil finishing. Thank you so much for doing the tests and so generously sharing your results in blogs. If youre open to a non-conventional finish approach, appreciate the many benefits they offer and can live with the minor downsides, then one of the two hardwax oil systems above could be perfect for your home. @HU-231824251 I wish you could be here to see the utterly confused look on my face. In fact, the word "perfect" isn't one that I'd expect someone to use with the Loba 2K products because their set-up time (similar description would be flash dry time) is so quick, and a few brush strokes or roller marks here and there would be totally normal from the immense speed that is required to get the coating laid down fast before it turns to a thick gel. With certain systems (particularly Rubio Monocoat), the custom colors and mixes you can achieve is incredible. There are precautions you can take if using these products and you will need to decide with him if the risks are acceptable for the both of you. However, most other coatings would wear the same or worse, and there are ways to protect flooring that should be utilized as much as possible to lengthen the life of the coating. 8. Matt spent a week building up and leveling out the subfloor. The double and triple stacked cabinets really accentuate the ceiling height, and the cabinet style and colors are classic-timeless with a nod to the modern (but not overly trendy that it will become dated). The product is theirs.they usually are interested in finding out 'weird' things about their product. It was oil poly before and there was fresh bb's . Clearly he wasnt & is blaming us & the product- says the floors were perfect when he finished & before we moved back home. In your opinion, can red oak be stained grey? We had another floor refinisher posting at Houzz a couple of years ago who tried the no-primer approach with Invisible and was so unhappy with the amount of tannin pull he got that he sanded it all off and re-started with primer. Im leaning toward AT as it seems to be more scratch resistant. That means no more being driven out of your home for days on end by strong fumes and toxic chemicals. How long should the stain dry before the oil? I have 5,000 square feet of new unfinished walnut flooring (wide plank character grade with some small knots). Description. We didnt get this brochure until a week later after we noticed marks. what do you think? As far as sealing and using a hardwax oil on the sample floor you saw do you know what the product was? The second one says stain then 3 coats of Easy Finish are required. After the third coat didnt have great protection, I ended up with the worst case option of re-sanding everything down to bare wood and going with an oil based finish. what has been your experience? Factor in the time it takes you to complete a coating and your drying time. Loba's coatings have a lot of elasticity built into them, but even so, it is best not to challenge the products by applying them to a floor that has swelled from outdoor humidity if that is not the final condition in which the floor will be used.As to your chance of success with Invisible Protect without primer, you have increased that already by having a helper for edges. The protective surface finish provided by 2K InvisibleProtectA.T. 4) Does Rubios fumed and smoke only work for white oak? First time users will always have trouble with any of these products. No enhancement or intensification of the light colour of the wood, the original colour is retained. For more information on technique, look up videos on proper application method of Loba EasyPrime and 2K Supra AT on YouTube posted by City Floor Supply featuring Loba's North American Business Manager Tom Zagula. They just need a little help re: sanding. We use other Loba products and they are a very reputable brand. Thanks for any recommendations you can give! By continuing to browse the site you are agreeing to our use of cookies. 1 S. 1 a DSGVO) Speicherdauer Hchstgrenze fr die Speicherung von Cookies: 7 Monate Weitere Hinweise Die an Google bermittelten Daten sind nicht anonym und werden in den USA gespeichert. We have 3 dogs and they've done no visible damage to it. The Sealant is put on the raw wood as the first coat of product. I have had them to my home & have followed up with phone calls. New England. We knew we had some subfloor issues to address in this older home in Sugarhouse, but when we stripped all of the old layers of flooring back to the original subfloor, what we found was the worst subfloor I have seen in the 16 years I have been doing hardwood floors. 1000 sf. Satin or semi-gloss? Loba Invisible Protect on red oak. I know it is upsetting but NOTHING can hurt the WOOD underneath. I'm not blaming anyone. I am a one man band and have always applied Invisible without a primer. In the past 6 months (2 months longer than expected), I have. I would get that issue sorted out first. Thanks again, in advance! 5. The most current products are being made with stickers on sturdy, one-gallon jugs. For particularly highly trafficked floors. No Waterlox is not classified as a hardwax oil finish. 100 sqm oak were renovated with, 11474 Application 2K InvisibleProtect AT 190805, 11474 BGR 181 R9 wood LOBADUR 2K Invisible Protect AT. Thanks a million! We have a huge dog bed that has black non-slip bumps on the back and those have left a huge patch of bump marks where the bed sites. Its hard to recommend a finish without looking at all the factors involved including the floors, setting and cleaning schedule in person. How is that for long term maintenance? If so, how many coats of seal and finisher? I would really appreciate your opinion. 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