I for the life of me can't figure out why anyone ever picked grand slams today over any of the other premium bullets. My go to load now is a 140 AccuBond with IMR-4831. they apparently used to be such but I think it is quite misleading to market them the same (and use tyhe same name) as the old GS knowing that they've made signifigant changes "downward". I plan on using the AB for most of my hunting this fall. I've never tried the Grand Slam but have always read and heard positive reviews on that bullet. In appropriate accuracy. I bought 6 of the transparent yellow boxes (grand slams) to work a load for that hunt. If they're the old style, I would be more sparing in their use. where varmints are often hunted. The reloader can choose from a great selection of traditional and high-tech 7mm bullets - from 100 to 175 grains. bullet that spews fragments in the middle of the chest and stops under the skin I recently started working up loads using Accubonds and was very pleasantly surprised with their accuracy. Like the other major bullet manufacturers in the U.S., where deer hunting rules, most Speer hunting bullets are designed with deer hunting in mind, or at least as a consideration. On the hog, the bullet was found in the far hide. With factory loads you can't taylor bullets to rifles like us handloaders, so quite simply pick whichever your rifle likes and know your shooting a great bullet that will get the job done. It has the perfect combination of penetration, yet opens easily and creates large wound channels. The Nosler Partition, Hornady InterLock and Remington Core-Lokt are 280 Ackley Improved 140gr AccuBond Trophy Grade Ammunition View Details. 2) 7mm 160 grain Partition 47 count - $30 shipped to conusa. I think they do that to limit the amount of back orders they have to fulfill. that devour crops and even gardens. So will North Forks, Nosler Partitions, Barnes TSX, Kodiaks, Woodleighs, GS soft points, Hornady Interbonds and Speer Grand Slams - and if I missed your favorite bullet -it probably will too. Here's the advertising blurb from their web page: sounds like they dropped the 416 & 458. correct me on this: weren't there two GS (the "African" which included solids and the "regular" in smaller calibers)? There are exceptions, of course, such as the bullets designed specifically for very large game. Similarly, the versatile Nosler Partition bullet is a perfectly reasonable choice for Class 2 deer in .257 Roberts, for Class 3 elk in 7mm Magnum and for Class 4 bison in .416 Rigby. Continuous development led to the 1977 release of the InterLock bullet, a rework of the 1965 InnerGroove bullet, but with a cannelure that locks together the lead core and copper jacket. Standing over a double-crowned, 11-point stag in such an idyllic settingand with such a prestigious riflewas assuredly a highlight of my career. look foreward to hearing the results of your search. No separation of of cores on impact. The grandslam is a rather blunt tipped cup and core bullet with a thicker jacket. Bonded core bullets are all the rage, so new to the Speer You are using an out of date browser. I personally do not like deformed lead tips, whether it be from the effect of the recoil or just packing them in your pocket. I think the factor to look at is the weight retention they are designed for. You are using an out of date browser. Surely one of you guys has Rifle and Handloader back issues all categorically bindered and crossreferenced for easy access. They also penetrated deaper and retained more weight than the regular HC in my wet newspaper test. meaning that there is no exposed lead tip unsupported by the jacket. Will be interesting to see if Vista and the other companies will worry about doing any promos this year. (2002-2003 I'd guess). 6.5 Creedmoor 142gr AccuBond Long Range Trophy Grade Ammunition View Details. It is manufactured in the conventional manner, using a drawn gilding metal appropriate to the game hunted. was the GS made differently in the smaller calibers. tail bullets of conventional construction (not bonded core) in the marketplace. abandoned in favor of a monolithic lead alloy core injected into a gilding not listed below. I have tried to load partitions in several calibers and find accuracy below 1.5" is a struggle. . I thought wed start with this one, because I mentioned it in the above story, and its been putting meat in the freezer for more than 40 years. subject. Medium bore rifles For medium range cartridges and general hunting, I'd stick with Hot-Cor bullets. Both will work, the partition is a way better bullet. The 145 gr Speer Grand Slam by comparison produced its maximum cavitation at a shallower depth and caused a narrower hole at its terminus. Crappie Killer: If the partitions are not shooting for your, check the "runout" of your handloads.I'll bet that is the issue. The bulls shoulder was caked in dried clay and, combined with its tough shoulder bones, it proved to be too much for the cup-and-core bullets Nosler was using. Bullets for Thick-skinned, Dangerous Game (Class 4). 175 grain for my 7x57 and 285 grain for my 375 Ruger. A interlock and partition are not trying to do the same thing. Hornady, Swift, Remington and others. While that point might be debatable now, in the years before World War II, the Core-Lokt quickly earned a solid reputation for reliability. so the new ones are essentially "hot-cors" now ? Rich, what gun do you have in 7mm-08?Bulldog. I do know I got my Arkansas elk permit in 2001. Barnes, Berger, Combined Technology, Hornady, Nosler, Sierra, Speer, Swift, and Winchester. All I use are the NP's out of my 30-06, 7-08 and 25-06. This fall I'm going on a hunting trip where I'll primarirly be deer hunting, but I will also be allowed to take an elk if the opportunity arises.Normally I use Ballistic tips or Sierra GK's for deer, but I want something a little stouter in case an elk happens to show itself.But I want a bullet that expands easily on deer as well.I've used Partitions on deer with great results, but I'm thinking of trying the Grand Slams out.I've tried them in different test media, and it seems to me that they might expand a little faster than Partitions do, maybe due to the skiving or fluting Speer uses.Am I correct, or is this just pure speculation on my part.I know the Partition would work perfectly, but I don't hear very much about the GS.Any thoughts?Thanks. Messages. This uses a pre-formed lead core and a Get the 76th edition of the World's Greatest Gun Book. jacket is made with a heavy heel section. They worked fine when I did my part. It shoots the 154 gr Hornady Interlocks the best so far. I could not get good accuracy with Speer Grand Slams. I shot the bear with a Speer Grand Slam bullet. Allen: +1. However, they do make a variety of other types of bullets, so it is possible that they offer a bonded option as well. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. "Montana seems to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans" John Steinbeck. Speer have been very good for all deer and hogs a few bear. Grand Slam out of a 270 from about 50 yds. allows Speer to compete with higher priced bonded bullet offerings from Nosler, The bonding of jacket to core virtually eliminates the possibility of I took my first few deer with the contents of the green-and-yellow box of 170-grain Core-Lokt .30-30 Winchester ammo, so it has a special place in my hunting memories. this issue is not that the bullet is worthless, the issue is that it is no longer a "premium" bullet like it once was. The following bullets are well regarded for this demanding hunting in suitable calibers. The Why? In addition, the Remington Core-Lokts price point is certainly attractive, and thats been a great selling point over the years. Grand Slam is built with a heavy, tapered jacket up to Case length for the .280 is 2.540 inches (same as the .270) and a bit longer than the .30-06 (2.494 inches). because I think the Nosler Partition has more than proven itself in the hunting world. Of course in their case there it was one change after another. The In fact, I'm not sure that they've ever had their heart fully into any sort of premium hunting bullet program, even now with their acquired 'Trophy Bonded' lineup, which seems to be very poorly and unenthusiastically promoted. Its suitable for nearly all game animals that are hunted with soft-point (expanding) bullets, including feral hogs, pronghorn, elk, moose, bear and even Cape buffalo. Now I use them and A frames exclusively in hunting loads from 95 gr 243's to 286gr 9.3 x 62's. I'm sure the GS are amazing, but until a partition let's me down I'll stick with what groups sub moa and kills fast. Bought some factory hsm loaded with 120 grand slams for the 257 weatherby. OK, enough of that rant. Dont waste your money! It is true that Speer produces bonded bullets for rifles. Have used 180 GS bullets in 300 Winchester since they came out and before that Speer Mag Tips Never have had a bullet fail and most were one shot kills, any that required a second shot were the fault of the shooter. For a while the Grand Slam was challenged within the Speer It was created by John Nosler in 1949. Here's the advertising blurb from their web page: sounds like they dropped the 416 & 458. correct me on this: weren't there two GS (the "African" which included solids and the "regular" in smaller calibers)? Save Share. It would be somewhere in those pages surely. Allen: +1. 200 Grain. Been up and down the powder scale with both IMR4831 and H4350. bullets are available in diameters from .243-.375". This bullet competes with the Sierra The Nosler Partition is a type of bullet designed for hunting. That is one of the virtues of the .375 H&H, good performance (especially on plains game) with heavier bullets of about any decent construction. Do you have experience with it on game? range, thus the Boat Tail is made with a thinner jacket than a Hot-Cor bullet The Grand Slams worked well for me from the early '80s when I started using them until Speer changed the design, at which point I switched to North Fork bullets. Funny thing is, I still used 160 Partitions on that hunt. Pouring molten lead into the pre-formed jacket provided an air- and oxidation-free bond between the jacket and core. RUGER: I just would not even bother to make a switch; I've lost count of the deer and elk I've shot or seen shot with Partitions, and switching to the Grand Slam would be, in my humble opinion, of no advantage whatsoever. : ). Never recovered a bullet, all full penetration with decent sized exit, from 50 yds to 400. The same bullets recommended for varmints are also recommended I am trying to compare the two in terms of other hunter's experiences regarding accuracy and terminal performance on deer, moose and elk. The more I think about it, I'd probably opt for the Hornady 270 next time for plains gameperhaps short of eland. I hunt Elk with the .308, and out here we do get some long shots. Expansion is usually twice the original caliber; penetration is adequate; and the Core-Lokt is responsible for a huge amount of game over its career. A Hot-Cor bullet is made by The Speer Grand Slam is one of the most popular bullets on the market. plated jacket, resulting in what Speer describes as an electro-chemical bond. Trust me, the animal won't be able to tell the difference. GS as an omni-load for North American game. JavaScript is disabled. Interlock, or cup and core = deer of about all sizes, partition = bear or something thick enough to require more penetration than expansion. that's really my big gripe. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I still load them for at least 3-7mm Rem Mags. I bought a couple boxes of .358 250 gr SP bullets direct from Speer last fall and had them in a week. [This message has been edited by bulldog (edited 10-07-2001). To summarize, Speer Bullets is the only manufacturer who can provide dependable, high-quality ammo for your rifle or handgun, no matter what kind of ammo youre looking for. I'm thinking about using some 145 grainers in my 7-08 this fall. New Member, I have enjoyed all the posts from the site and hope to learn more about hunting in Africa. why package the (essentially) same bullet in two packages? I've shot a least 20 animals with it in Africa, and never a problem. Their "heavy game bullets" are now all Trophy Bonded. experienced hunters around the world. I don't know about the 145 gr. This has turned into a pretty interesting read.I've never ahd trouble accuracy wise, with PT's or the Grand Slams.I've just never killed anything with the GS, but have killed plenty with Partitions.I'll proabaly stick with PTs for this fall, just in case an elk does show up, but I think I'm gonna try the Grand Slams on deer at some point.Thanks for the info. Federal brand as Federal's premium bullet and leaving the Grand Slam as Speer's You must log in or register to reply here. Today, the design has been changed to a lead core of single hardnessusing Vernon Speers HotCor process of injecting molten lead at 900 degrees Falong with a much thicker jacket. THey're cheap and great for plinking and practice! We aim to provide our visitors with everything they need to know about tennis, whether they are casual fans or hardcore enthusiasts. The Nosler partitions are OK, the Swift A-Frames are much better than the Nosler partitions. Most were behind the shoulder with complete penetration. Ballistic Tip; Nosler . On Mule Deer I use the Nosler 165 BT Ballistic Tip with the same load I use for the Barns and they are right there EVERY TIME. sake of brevity, such bullets are listed under their manufacturer's name only (Nosler TENNIS FOR STARTERS: ONE GRAND SLAM AND TWO MASTERS TO WATCH OUT FOR IN 2023. The velocity and sd are what kill with the 270. iffy on raking shots at Class 3 animals. The first animal I ever put down with a Speer Grand Slam was a mule deer that I shot straight through the lungs with a 150 gr. factory loaded ammunition, as well as to reloaders by their manufacturer. I'll prolly stick with the NP,TSX, and Banded solids for the 375s. For the The grand slam managed to penetrate through both shoulders of a Zebra standing broadside amd keep on going. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Speer is known for discontinuing bullets and they always seem to drop the ones i use. was the GS made differently in the smaller calibers? I've loaded the 350 grs. 300 Winchester Short Magnum (WSM) Load Data. The Grand Slams always stopped under the hide on the far side of the animal, held 75-80% of their weight, mushroomed perfectly and smashed every bone they encountered. in the case of this example) and not under each brand of ammunition that uses them. Try finding them cheaper on nosler sps. I'm a semi-professional tennis player for 15 years, and I can clearly claim that tennis court is my 2nd home. Another consideration is finding a bullet and load that your I switched to Partitions about 40 years back, and never regreted it. Plastic tipped, I recently started working up loads using Accubonds and was very pleasantly surprised with their accuracy. As a businessman, I have Weight retention, however, is even higher than the Grand Slam, typically about from about 50-300 pounds live weight. It is also a good performer, just . Long before we had the modern match bullets that resemble a Titan missile more than a traditional bullet, the Sierra MatchKing was setting records. Apr 16, 2017; Thread Starter . I agree with some of the above posts that the a frame is a superior bullet in general. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I much prefered the Grand Slams to Partitions, until the bean counters at Speer wrecked them -- Speer is basically calling a totally different bullet the "Grand Slam" and defrauding the shooting public. If you hunt at ranges for which holdover doesnt matter, try some round-nosed Core-Lokts. There are bullet fads, just like there are fads in clothing or automobile design. I then measured the Overall Length, and things cleared up a little. One was straight on the shoulder, breaking the joint and lodging in the off side shoulder. I emailed Speer but received no reply. Bristol. At the shot, this buck ran in a circle and fell over. Furthermore, the A-Frame bullet is designed with a high concentration of controlled expansion, an excellent weight retention rate, and excellent penetration, making it the hunting bullet of choice for hunters all over the world. I started reloading over 45 years ago with Speer bullets, before the introduction of Hot-Cor, Boat Tail, Grand Slam and Deep Curl, and I still use them. Using the 165gr in a .30/06, I took a couple of whitetail and a boar (hog) with it. The only thing you will find with the blems are one or two in the box are a little tarnished or discolored, but they shoot perfectly. Hornady SST have also proven very effective on Class 2 game. and the price is great. A proper big-deer handload consists of 120 Partitions at 3,078 fps with 54 grains of H4831. Being a bullet guy, I wondered to myself why they hadnt opted to use a premium bullet for such a unique opportunity. The Grand Slam is also known for its high velocities and its flat trajectory. I agree. Sierra continues to expand the MatchKing line, with some excellent offerings in 6mm, 6.5mm and 7mm in the traditional hollow-point configurationnot to mention the recent Tipped MatchKing line, which utilizes a green polymer tip to maintain consistent B.C. Back then I used a .375 H&H Mag using 285 gr Grand Slams because Nosler for some reason stopped making their Partitions in .375 at that time. The Speer Grand Slam bullet is an affordable, accurate hunting bullet that is well suited for use in a wide range of applications, including big game hunting. 100g HORNADY INTERLOCK V 100g SPEER GRAND SLAM (243) Thread starter mick b; Start date Jul 24, 2010; mick b Well-Known Member. The Partition used to be my go to hunting bullet for several years until I ran out of the batches that I had on hand. The fifth edition of the Nosler Reloading Guide shows that 59.0 grains of IMR 4350 powder will drive one of their 130 grain bullets to a MV of 3051 fps, and 63.0 grains of the same powder will give a 130 grain bullet a MV of 3294 fps. I quit using Nosler partitions years ago as the tips would get bent in the magazine of my 338 Win Mag just from the recoil of the rifle. It wasn't long after that I heard they were changing them. core/jacket integrity and less chance of the core slipping from the jacket When I tried some new lots, the accuracy wasn't even close to the same with either bullet, so I switched to other bullets instead. "Actually" the Mag Tip is a better bullet than the Grand Slam. If you are interested in purchasing a bonded bullet from Speer, it is best to contact them directly to inquire about availability and pricing. Both are excellent choices. If you have sticker shock check out the speer grand slam. Impact velocity is typically lower at long The 4th one strings out about an inch, but I hope I never need that one! seek. This partition helps to keep the lead core from expanding on impact, which results in better penetration and accuracy. It was a valid question, because the pouring rain had stopped, the wind had died down, and those little, black demons had risen from the heather. my "old" GS had a solid yellow box and my 2002 catalog still had the "old" models. of game, such as pronghorn antelope or Coues deer, at any range. The original had a hard rear core with a softer front section, and the inside of the jacket nose was fluted to initiate expansion. I have used the 175 gr Mag Tip a lot in the 7mm Mag, and just love it. Three shots around 0.8 @ 200 yds. Speer prospered and from such humble beginnings Partitions still are my first choice in most of my rifles. was the GS made differently in the smaller calibers? His concept of using a partition of jacket material between two lead cores (the front core would mushroom, and the rear core would drive deeply into the vitals) remains a staple to this day. My 280 was so so with 150-160 gr bullets. The Grand Slam's greater weight retention should deliver deeper penetration and at least partially compensate for the bullet's lack of sectional density. (.338-.375 caliber) and heavy bullets of high sectional density are preferred. They are a true Premium Bullet.. My rifle didn't shoot them very good, but killed several animals with them. I still have a few of the OLD STYLE .257 120 GS in case I need to shoot an elephant with my 25-06. If you over-stress it by blowing the nose off the jacket, it appears to peel back like a thin jacketed Hot-Cor, rather than supporting the mushroom. 74% weight retention. look foreward to hearing the results of your search. . the vitals, of course, but from there on a wide wound cavity is the ticket. Get the latest news and reviews from Gundigest.com. Yeah, I read Speer's justification for the change. Nevertheless, throughout the industry, the Sierra MatchKing still represents the benchmark by which all other match bullets are measured. In response to the criticism, Speer has announced that it will be discontinuing the production of the grand slam bullet. But, for the annual fall deer hunt, its hard to argue with the InterLock. ------------------My wife told me if I buy another gun she would leave me.I hope the door does not hit her on the way out!!!!! Performance on game has always been good, but there are so many other good choices these days, that I haven't used a Partition in several years. I like the Grand Slam as a black bear bullet at closer ranges (say, inside 250 yards), because its strong enough to break bones yet soft enough to expand reliably on lung shots. It is known for its accuracy and its ability to penetrate deeply into targets. Including breaking shoulders on a 220 lb 8 pt. The Grand Slam is a Cup-n-Core with a three-part Lead alloy in the same tapered/fluted jacket as the SPEER Hot Core process. I've read on multiple sites the 200gr Nosler Partition is the best for . Bullets for Dangerous Predators (Class 4). caliber game. Varmints are small pests and include such species as gophers, identical to the process that creates the bullets used in Fusion factory loads. Use the one your rifle likes the best. I've not shot them much as that one box is pretty much it. Does Proto make bonded bullets? One of Vernon Speer's last accomplishments was the Hot-Cor As has been said Speer only makes 140 gr in .264 in the Grand Slam but does make 120 gr in the Gold Dot which is a GREAT bullet. The bullets listed in the Class 2 category can be deadly if (2002-2003 I'd guess). For example, bonded core bullets are "in" as I write these words. In terms of terminal performance, Deep Curl offers more The Hot-Cor was in effect the first bonded bullet, as it was a poured, not swaged, core. A 225 grain .338 bullet is probably going to be optimized for use on CXP3 game, such as elk and grizzly bear. Vernon Speer is really one of the unsung heroes of our current handloading nirvana, for sure. Nosler was carrying a .300 Holland & Holland Magnuma classic cartridge with a hefty muzzle velocity, especially for 1946when he experienced bullet failure on a moose hunt in British Columbia. The company is now owned by industry giant ATK, but still operates out of Greater penetration is generally preferred I just haven't bumped into or tracked one down yet. 210 Grain. Dec 20, 2009. Yet, just as it is with our cartridge choices, the modern developments dont always render the older designs obsolete. Hot-Cor bullets not remain intact if they hit heavy bones. For the 90 to 170 LB north east NC deer I was shooting with them they were a bit too tough of a bullet for my liking. This is kind of disappointing as I just worked up loads in my .257 Roberts Ackley Improved using it last fall. 270win 130gr bullet and h4831 go together like ice cream and apple pie. same point of impact. Their web site does not list the African Grand Slams, which IIRC were made with a tungsten core. There is no definitive answer to this question as it depends on individual preferences and opinions. I think the NP is the best hunting bullet ever designed. Class 3 game includes such species as wild boar, red stag, elk, moose, kudu, eland, oryx In the early 90s I shot all my animals with Grand Slams because they were a Premium bullet compared to everything else that we could afford. Manufacturers feel compelled to offer the latest bullet trends to their customers, hence the Speer Deep Curl. One bullet that was great but is not offered anymore is the 140 gr Speer Trophy Bonded Bear Claw. the 120 grain Grand Slam would be an appropriate bullet choice. I was reading recently that a lot of factory capacity has gone away from the slightly less common calibres and been given over to common stuff. jacket/core separation after impact, ensuring high weight retention. The win was 270 with 150/140 gr. . Both work really well in my experiencelike the protected point on the GS!! FILTERS $ $ .243 / 6mm Caliber Bullets at LG Outdoors.243 / 6mm Caliber Reloading Bullets .243 / 6mm Caliber Bullets can be used to reload .243 Winchester, 6mm Remington, .243 WSSM, .240 Weatherby Magnum, 6mm PPC, .244 H&H magnum and other cartridges . Performance was spectacular, he shot nine animals, with 8 one shot kills. Editor's Note: This article originally appeared in the July 2020 issue of Gun Digest the Magazine. Hornady 270 Caliber Component Bullets, 145 Grain .277 Diameter ELD-X, 100 Per Box Md: 27356. Go figure. Compared to a Hot-Cor So with one sight setting, a hunter carrying a .25/06 is ready to cover a lot of hunting ground, fast. Speer claims the Hot-Cor Sierra MatchKing starting at $16 Sportsman's Warehouse. values, it gives a useable trajectory and retains plenty of energy out to sane distances. I used the old style Grand Slams back in the early 90's.They were great bullets.I've also shot 120gr Speer Hot Cores and 117gr Sierra bullets.I never shot any Nosler's back then,but they now have 110gr Accubonds,115gr Ballistic Tips and also Partitions.I don't have any 25cals anymore,but I'd give Noslers a hard look.I don't think you will find a better deal than this. 160 & 175 grain 7mm (.284) Bullets - Speer bonded + Sierras, OtoPro SoundGear Phantom and Impulse Review, Vortex Razor HD 4000 GB Rangefinder Review, Toric UHD 2.5-15x44mm FFP Hunt Series Riflescope Review, Hunting Big Mule Deer after Mid-October with Cliff Gray. medicine and will out perform more expensive premium bullets. metal jacket cup at 900-degrees F via the Hot-Cor process. Speer has the 285 grain .375 Grand Slams for $14.99 per box of 50 with free shipping on $99 purchase. I found the perfectly mushroomed back to the harder core lead bullet under the hide on the back side of his right ham. know if any of the larger ones are still lurking out there for sale? Oh and by the way Corporate wants the rollout plan and new slicks by Tuesday. I have used partitions for years, love the way they hang together for extra penetration. A interlock does controlled expansion and a partition does penetration. The days of using cheap and substandard ammunition have long passed as a result of the introduction of precision-crafted rifle bullets. Ill be loading A Frames in my 8mm magnum. here I found my 2002 speer catalog: it says "the AGS starts with a solid bar of guilding metal to for a massive jacket that is twice as thick as our North American Grand Slams" "A stop shoulder is machined" " multilock serrations". A bonus of these three .25/06 loads is they hit within a deer's hair of each other at 100 yards and within 3 inches at 300 yards. Sierra GameKing and ProHunter. Grand Slam bullets are for a wide variety of game animals. Both are versatile, all-around bullets suitable for mixed bag hunts. was the GS made differently in the smaller calibers. GS in .358 for my .35 Whelen. bullet, which was introduced some 48 years ago. This type of bullet is designed to expand upon impact and cause maximum damage, and has been linked to a number of high-profile hunting accidents. line by marketing Federal's Trophy Bonded Bear Claw bullets under the Speer The Sierra BlitzKing and Hornady V-Max are popular examples The Swift A-Frame, Nosler Accurate and DEADLY in my experience. He wrote up his findings, which I have around here (somewhere). I'm just a casual observer, the effete snob upon the hill with the fine wine and the opera glasses, gazing down upon your little battlefield, looking alternately aghast and bemused. The Deep Curl That was over 30 years ago so whatever their production is now is likely to have significantly different results. just sticking to nosler partitions for smaller game and barnesx for bigger at those speeds. Mar 12, 2023. bullets of the time, such as the Nosler Partition. Another consideration is finding a bullet and load that your rifle shoots well from the list of acceptable bullets for the type of game you seek. The result is a strong and accurate hunting bullet that offers a blend of desirable expansion, as well as the deep penetration that ends in a quick kill. Lewiston, Idaho. They went away from the 2 different core hardness and now they are just one core of hard lead. 45% thicker than Hot-Cor jackets with internal flutes at the nose to facilitate Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. The NP is my go to hunting bullet aswell. I guess the partition is my go to bullet, doesn't mean I wouldn't try another. 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