What makes it useful for a tablet is you can write on it with your fingernail or a pointed object or stylus. CRAWFORD: I know you said there were tensions between Fergason and Brown. To do science, you have to fund it. CRAWFORD: Do you have a sense of why that was?DOANE: I don't know. John West is the one to talk about that.CRAWFORD: He took over as director after you, correct?DOANE: He did [at a time when the new building was being built]. CRAWFORD: Would you say your ability to win grants and contracts was a kind of expertise?DOANE: Yes, that was an expertise. It was another possible way to make a display and other optical devices. It really didn't have a lot to do with my nuclear spin pumping and my double resonance experiments [other than we were both working with solid crystals]. DARPA primarily, but also the Navy and other agencies, the Army, started funding display research. I think that was probably our first market for that thing. Then, we had to decide what to do with this program. He wanted to have him salaried in the Institute. They sued Kent State University. Anyway, we began to evolve into applied aspects, particularly displays. So I got a board, drilled holes to put the tube in, ran wires down it to put in the holes [and got the oscillator to work]. Please interview Phil Bos, he'll clue you in on all of that stuff. I think one of the best ways a university capitalizes on patents is through PR. Then, in RCA, there was a group. CRAWFORD: By secrets, youre talking about intellectual property?DOANE: [Yeah, primarily intellectual property but also research results. The Japanese could do this. As I pointed out, when I went to the first Society meeting, I didn't see any other universities, it was all industry and they were getting heavily involved with liquid crystal displays. That was my first inclination that I liked this kind of thing. Asad worked very closely with me on all of these things, and eventually he took over as principal investigator on all government contacts ultimately becoming CTO as I got closer to retirement. That's what I did. He earned his PhD from the University of Missouri in 1965. DOANE: And he said the response from it was just so good that he decided to pursue the field. He had held a Regents Professorship. Absolutely. CRAWFORD: Was this a type of liquid crystal that was discovered or developed at the Liquid Crystal Institute?DOANE: Actually, that type of liquid crystal was the first ever discovered back in 1888. They seemed to like the idea, but I didn't always get what I thought I was going to get. Then, I would say another event that directed my life and that of my wife was, after I'd written my dissertation, I had an oral presentation to give at the American Physical Society on my dissertation work. They gave it to me to put in the Institute so we could make displays in the Institute. [I mention this as later these two parallel developments came in conflict].CRAWFORD: Do you recall the student's name?DOANE: No, but I could dig it up. And they decided to go with a twist cell. The Japanese had really gotten it off the ground. He thought it was a fascinating field. If I had something like you proposed the other day, where the institute was off campus, apart from the University, it would've been something I might've been able to deal with a lot more easily. I thought about it for a short while and agreed. [Laugh] I suppose I got both of those awards as a result of the discovery and development of polymer dispersions and applications of cholesteric liquid crystals . It makes a nice writing surface. But he had two other positions he could fill. It was an industry-run program. Over in chemistry, there was Vernon Neff, who was doing infrared dichroic studies, [Bill Bacon on liquid crystal phases. CRAWFORD: What was the reaction to that?DOANE: They picked up on it, but they didn't always do it as well as I would have liked. Also around that timearound '67, a lot of things happened. She'd recall these numbers easily as she was a superb manager.CRAWFORD: What did this mean in terms of the research agenda, either for your group or the Institute as a whole? A laser emits a very bright beam of light, and then there was a maser, where you could do the same thing with microwaves. It was well-organized by that time and liquid crystal displays were beginning to dominate the display activity.CRAWFORD: Do you recall what year this first meeting you attended was? That was my focus at that time. In regard to the American Society of Patent Holders, Goodyear was involved. Because part of the issue is that you're getting federal funding, so the research is supposed to be a public good, so how could you make it private? More important, there was no centralized funding. We are continuously working to improve the accessibility of our web experience for everyone, and we welcome feedback and accommodation requests. But they did. What was it about their work or them as individuals that attracted you to Kent?DOANE: They were dealing with a nuclear property that comes up in the jargon of nuclear magnetic resonance, spin-lattice relaxation. But it was clear that it wasn't going to be a very big business, and I wasn't sure that Bill Manning would ever get that much enjoyment out of signs. Also, Kent had just started its PhD program in solid-state physics, and I just wanted it to grow from solid-state physics to physics in general, which it did. Obviously, the science is important. I knew how to work with government agencies very well. The government support, both federal and state, were very extremely helpful.CRAWFORD: When you started working full-time at Kent Displays, what was your role at the company? I had a quote from Glenn Brown I wanted to read for you. It was all just basic research funded by the THEMIS project.] I talked to Heinke once about this. Were there other companies the LCI was developing relationships with at this time?DOANE: [Those were among the first ones but I think by then, 3M and Polytronix were working with us in some way. 8 hours from Denver, CO. 8 hours from Dallas, TX. [Laugh] CRAWFORD: Did you see patenting as a way of kind of signaling that the Institute was moving into applied research?DOANE: No, I didn't see it from that point of view. That's where the early display work was really making progress. Listing Provided Courtesy of Weather forecast for the next coming days and current time of Les Avenires Veyrins-Thuellin. I was in artillery school at Fort Sill Oklahoma. DOANE: Yes, except that back then, it was even more difficult because I think this was prior to the time of the Bayh-Dole Act that gave universities more freedom in the patent business.CRAWFORD: Yes, 1980. More so then than now.CRAWFORD: What was the nature of that difference?DOANE: [Back when Glenn first formed the institute this gap was larger than today in that universities didnt see it as their business to perform research of industrial interest. Oral History Interview with J. William Doane by Matthew Crawford. He got an appointment at Texas A&M. That's what I did for my personal research however it was a small part of the overall program. They don't want to establish competitors [before they have the product on the market]. When we discovered how to do that we realized we could make a nice electronically addressed display out of it. Very strong lady administratively who would take the bull by the horns. We will schedule showings by appointment only until the tenant has moved. We didn't think we could ever make a raser. A slight pressure of the pointed object creates an image. Then, of course, I had undergraduates working in my laboratory as well. We can pick up tomorrow. The polymer dispersions could be used in night vision, reflective color displays and various kinds of things. I appreciate you doing this. Nowadays, we have software that keeps track of publications, and you can get a score based on the quantity you have. My Toy Chest. When Jim's company began to fail, Hoffmann-La Roche wanted to buy the patent from him. I know we've covered quite a bit of ground.DOANE: I have to say, I'm really impressed how prepared you were for this and how much you knew before you even set foot through this door. I was their marketing component before. I was finally able to get the University, at least the physics department, to come up with a professorial title for him. Chemistry hadn't had its graduate program very long before that. And just after I got here, he had already invited Jim up for an interview. This choice to take some research and move it into patents, take it out of publication, was that a concern at all, that you'd be taking away from your academic achievement?DOANE: It wasn't a concern for me because I really wanted to get into applied research. Could you tell us what that stands for?DOANE: Yes. I played around with that, though I never could get it to work very well. [Laugh]CRAWFORD: Where did this expertise come from? I'd been there for 13 years, and I thought it was time for new blood to come in. The viewing angle was a big issue on displays. They sent the two of us to communications school. I think people see me more in that light than in terms of making a big scientific contribution. The Mill at Chastain is located at 3350 George Busbee Pkwy NW, Trulia is a registered Trademark of Zillow, Inc. Zillow, Inc. holds real estate brokerage, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information, Zillow Group is committed to ensuring digital accessibility for individuals with disabilities. Nuno was wonderful. Business acumen?DOANE: He was a Stanford graduate in physics. A year earlier, they had awarded 12 of these. But was this discovery of switching cholesteric liquid crystals electronically more by design?DOANE: [No, it also was by accident. I think one of the biggest contributions ALCOM made was its students. As a graduate student, when I got into nuclear magnetic resonance, I had a research assistantship while I was working on my PhD, and that was funded with a grant. You can learn more about the company by talking with Asad. one day when inevitably you get in a heated discussion with ur old man you got one hell of a card to play. They were not necessarily licensees but we either had research interactions with them or they just wanted to be involved to keep abreast of the field.] Right now, I can watch my computer recording our conversation. Chemistry was really opposed to it because they saw these courses encroaching on their courses. It could make a nice flat screen display but was a big drain on the battery. Right after we recapitalized, the company was kind of an R&D company for a while because we were developing full-color, high-resolution displays on flexible plastic substrates. I wanted to see the city of Kent benefit from this, employment, and so on. [Laugh] That was a huge effort, the first time I ever worked with other universities, and I learned the issues with that. We are not looking for the development of marketable products. DOANE: You can find venture capitalists, but finding one that fits with you can be an issue. August 9, 2021August 10, 2021August 16, 2021Location of Interview: Kent Displays in Kent, Ohio. Or was it just purely, "This is where we have space"?DOANE: Chemistry and physics being two independent units didn't bother me at all. It's just kind of in my nature. [I believe it was University money I brought him on with. At that point, I went to the University of Akron, where they had a polymer program, and I found a group over there headed by Frank Harris that really wanted to do this. But it's different now. [As I mentioned earlier, group funding had ended and liquid crystal research on campus was beginning to fall apart.] Do additional legal protections exist for the LGBTQ community at the county level in Cobb County? Prices and availability are subject to change without notice. Dr. Doane, thanks for agreeing to speak to me again.J. CRAWFORD: They've basically shut campus down. I had virtually nothing to work with, so I had to get [a vacuum] tube, and then I didnt know how to mount this tube. CRAWFORD: Maybe not as a categorial research program. I worked with him and helped with stuff, we went down in limestone mines, looking at cosmic rays. We began to get work using liquid crystals, not just PDLCs, but other kinds, for optical studies. I wanted Kent to benefit from this. [Laugh] [I am sure, however, there are some examples where it has paid off. The next day, we came back in, and the clear liquid mess had turned to a beautiful white solid. That happened in the late 70s, early 80s.CRAWFORD: Do you recall the name of that researcher from the University of Calabria?DOANE: Yes, his name was Giuseppe Chidichimo, but he called himself Pino. Its called that because it can be found in the cholesterol of living systems. In the summer of '67, my wife and I took our summer vacation, and we went back home to visit our parents. The Retail building features a total of 24,497 SF. Today is August 9th, 2021. I'm an Associate Professor and Historian of Science at Kent State University. You can even write on it and store it on your cell phone if you want to. [If the departments would appoint them to professorships, they were afraid that they wouldn't be allotted a position in their department they wanted to fill. There's another issue about Fergason I'd like you to be aware of. It was the start of that. Some were even teaching classes. If I apply a voltage pulse, it does this and if I change the voltage of the pulse it does that." I think there may be exceptions, but I think those are unusual situations, where a university makes a bundle of money from licensing. I really appreciate you sharing your reflections.DOANE: Thank you very much. Today he is CEO taking the company into new exciting directions with new products. Minutes from KSU, Town Center Mall, and all Major Dining. 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