Plus I just really like it over anything else under $3000. 2. I recommend buying through an Ariens dealer instead of the big box stores. I feel like I cant afford to buy the wrong mower, especially at these prices. My first choice for you is a Country Clipper Boulevard zero-turn. Hi JD, You will be a lot happier with the cut of the Toro than the Simplicity. Its going to be a great mower for the average suburban lawn but not for tall grass of really bumpy lawns. Is the 3-blades on the Ariens an advantage for mulching? Theyve always made the best commercial mowers. They side discharge and mulch better than all the other brands. Consumer Reports agrees with me on this. Of course, Im always partial to Exmark. Watch this video: Paul hope all is well. I will not be towing with it. I am in need a smoother more comfortable ride that doesnt brake my back every time I mow..Good ideas for a ZTR mower with suspension? The driveshaft is more durable than the Grasshoppers. If he balks at that try for a tune-up kit, blades or air cleaner etc. Walker Model R (local dealer) Have you any recommendations on those? The Toro Titan with MyRide is the best ride on the market right now. It has a heavier deck, heavier transmissions, and heavier frame. I think Im leaning towards the Gravley/Ariens product. If you wreck a piece, youre going down with a bill. The Liberty Z Scag is a residential mower and is the cheapest in the Scag line. If you see a pulley bouncing up and down or an idler bracket wobbling replace it. Just tell your friends about Todaysmower.com and MovingSnow.com. Not going to pull much or do much ground work with it. They are nice because once they are installed you dont need to mess with them for weeks at a time. Im going to be down in the Bradley, Il area the middle of June. Earl, Depends on the slope. Read more here: How to Support TodaysMower.com. In my opinion, it will be faster than a DR leaf vac plus you dont have to mess with that extra engine Red or Yellow. For the Titan, deck height adjustments are in quarter increments from 1.5 to 4.5 inches and are adjustable by a pin and foot pedal system, which is more closely associated with commercial ZTR mowers. Later, if it gets harder to get on and off you can always add the step and hand bar. Those 700-1500 hour machines can nickel and dime you to bankruptcy. It has a very small, cheap engine. Im pretty sure Ive narrowed down the candidates to the Toro SS 4225, the Deere Z335M, or Deere Z345M/R (unless you recommend something else), but Im not super pumped about the Briggs engines in each of them. Walker Model R. Either the 42 or 48-inch deck but the 48 will give you the best trimming capabilities. Also, any recommendations for best time of year to purchase? Hi Dan, Yes, the Bad Boy Maverick is their best residential mower. The biggest problem with the TB30 is its lack of traction on any type of slope so most zero-turns will be better but I suggest a heavy-duty model. Hi Jim, Most homeowners usually buy Mid-April through June so thats when youll see any sales or price drops for the residential machines. Ive pretty much narrowed my choice down to the JD Z355R (maybe the Z375R) or the Toro MX5075 (a bit under 2 acres, somewhat bumpy, with a few hills and some trees and obstacles to dodge). I like the idea of the Kawasaki engine. I basically just want a zero turn that will last me a very long time for $3000 or less. The large 30-inch deck will get your lawn mowed in half the time of a 22-inch machine. Like Walker, Country Clipper has been around for over 30 years and they specialize in rural or farm properties. The Toro mower proudly rides the coattails of its commercial DNA and power mower heritage, and Cub rests on its tubular steel frame and proudly advertises durability and comfort. Hi James, The John Deere uses both the Intek and the ELS Briggs engines in various mowers. 2023 Desired Lawn Mower, all rights reserved. My understanding is he was originally a part owner in Bad Boy mowers he didnt like the direction Bad Boy was heading so he started his own brand of ZTRs. Spent the last couple months searching for a ZTR. Im always partial to the Exmark though many contractors also like the Scag. The Ikon XLs blades will last 3-5 years or longer and youll only need to sharpen them once a year. It is mostly level ground and what is not is easy to use a push mower. The Titan is considered high end residential, it is a "better" built unit. Exmark has its own decks and its tuned for the commercial operators who like to mow as fast as the mower will go. (There are a lot of small assembly shops that do make components for most brands). All of these machines seem to be comparable to each other but of course theyre a lot of money and I definitely want to make the right choice. Hi Paul, great website! My five is in engine, transmutation and durability with Max cut height in mind. Troy-Bilt Zero-Turn Mower Review Inexpensive Quality ZTRs. Could you narrow it down to 2 I have also noticed the Craftsman Pro Series 48 ZTR is on sale for about $3300, putting it in my price range. It has accessories for power deck lift and a mower jack for easy blade changes. Please stop back later this summer and tell us how you like your new mower! Hows the hustler dash, toro timecutter, or the ryobi rider? I think I have a truly fun exercise for you with a varied list of contenders. Shopping question: I had narrowed my choice to the new Ariens Apex 48 or 52 (991161 & 991159). They make small batches and keep the price very affordable. I read everything you wrote about ZTRs, heck I even created a spreadsheet that shows, brand, model, engine, HP, transmission, deck type, deck size, and price. Love the articles. I have been using a Troybuilt TB30 but it slips and the drive wheel spins a lot as well the cut tends to be uneven. 1. This is how I make money to keep this website up and running. Thought kubota z421kw was nice. OEM might even be kevlar belts but they pretty much always cost more. Hi Randy, The XT2 gives you taller wider tires, 2800 hydros, thicker handles, comfy seat, and a reinforced deck. Later in this article, we'll take a close look at the best overall zero-turn mower from each brand (Toro 42-Inch TimeCutter SS4200 vs. Husqvarna 42-Inch Zero-Turn) and compare them head-to-head. Both have an excellent reputation. If hill is wet I can walk behind to have more control Heavy 7 gauge deck (apparently the same deck/frame as Bobcat). If I got a tractor, how beefy of a model would I need to get? I will check out the dealer and go from there. It appears Cud Cadet has tried to up their game with the big boys. Toro researched and went with Loncin primarily because five years ago the quality control and warranty repairs for some of the other engine brands you recognize was becoming problematic. Hi Randy, All have the EZT2200 axles. Great Brand recognition = quality. Check it out here: Ariens Ikon 42. Appears to be a heavy duty estate class machine, has 2800 hydros, Kohler 7000 engine, and even larger tires. Bradley is a small Midwest company thats been around for years. Both are heavier duty than the ZT2, have better decks that will cut better and faster, however the Apex is only a few hundred more so is the best choice in my opinion. My boss stumbled across the Jonsered 54 ZT Commercial Riding Mower at Costco, and she recently ordered the Jonsered 46 Tractor Mower. Opinion please. The front half of the lawn is level, and thus can be mowed with even a basic riding mower. Spartan. I like the flip up footplate, the Kohler, and the rear engine guard on the Cub Cadet a lot. Max reverse speed sees Kubota . To get a ZTR heavy enough to hang on that slope you need to be in the $6000 plus range. The deck is tough but mows best on normal lawn. As an aside, I purchased my snow blower based on your recommendations (Ariens Platinum SHO with EFI). The Cub Cadet is new and appears to be a great mower but the XT2 is a closer comparison to the Deere. This machine was a beast. If you want the mower and need armrests here are the right ones: Cub Cadet Arm Rests. The Courier is one of the lowest-rated mowers by Consumer Reports for every category they test. I often allow the grass to reach 10. Thanks for your advice to buy the Ultima ZT2 50. I mow 2 1/2 acres with some inclines and trees. A good size for snow blowers and push mowers. At least not a bone jarring ride. With zero-turn mowers, it isnt a one-size-fits-all kind of game closely related models can offer totally different experiences which could either be for you or against you. Both are good engines. We have one here and my wife has been trying to break it for over two years. If you are mowing one acre and less properties the Walker will be faster overall. So thanks for providing that information. Thanks for all you do ! Hello and thank you for all of the information that you have enlightened all of us with in reference to ztr mowers. The deck also sits out front so you can trim under stuff and with the 48-inch deck, it will trim right around fence post and landscaping without leaving anything to trim. Its the same mower as the IKON XD with the serviceable ZT2800 trannys. (Clean and change the blades every 3-6 weeks), If you want to see everything involved with owning a robotic mower here is the operators manual for the 435 https://service.webec.husqvarna.net/documents/HUSO/HUSO2020_NAen/HUSO2020_NAen__1141841-95.pdf, Installation manual: https://service.webec.husqvarna.net/documents/HUSO/HUSO2020_NAenNAesNAfrLApt/HUSO2020_NAenNAesNAfrLApt__1140537-38.pdf. I am considering a Kubota z231 BR-48 and a John Deere Z530M-48. and 2. They are both great engines. Mowing about 1.2 acres. I have a huge (20 acre) yard and do not own a tractor, and dont know if I want one. Join the discussionPaul, what is the blade speed on the Cub Cadet Ultima? I have a one acre lot. The last option Ive thought about is to use a robotic mower for the back hill, and go with a lower priced mower for the flat part. Youll need to sharpen the blades twice a year and replace them every 2-3 years. For reference, I am mowing one acre, with some moderate slopes, trees, and landscaping. But: Thanks! Below that list, I discuss the more popular brands and why buying a certain brand may be the best choice for you. Ive been looking at the Ariens Ikon XD 42 which seems well reviewed. Im looking at Cub Cadet PRO Z 148 S EFI and the Cub cadet Z-Force SX 48. I dont know how steep of slopes it covers. I like the optional front flex forks for rough lawns. 1, Stihl iMow RMI 632 P handles up to one acre and is the best for design and installation. The best mower in that price range for ride, cut quality, cutting speed and long life components including the drive belts is the Exmark Lazer Z X-Series. Property: 4.5 mowable acres relatively flat, improved grassy land with new home build on pacific coastal high bluff in northern Cal. For that steep spot, Ive been planting ground cover, and only have a small section remaining that can be mowed without needing to make turns on the hill (it bottoms out into a flat section). The Edge also has a pivoting front axle. They are also very heavy for their small tire size and can groove a lawn quickly if you are not pattern mowing. The John Deere D110 has a 43-inch deck, which is large enough for most homeowners' lawns. In the bulleted info points about the Toro above it reads: Are Spartans dependable and here to stay? Homeowners like their Spartan mowers a lot. 2. 2. auto docking. I know you really like the Toro units. Are they dependable? Im leaning towards a 42 inch deck for either mower I choose. Probably not but if your property is rough, has slopes greater than 10 degrees, you want to get done as quickly as possible or you have teenagers who are learning to use a zero-turn then it is worth moving up to the XT2. I dont have any issues with Hustler mowers. Other thought was to get the 75742 then add the Rop Shop suspension seat but at that point Im only a couple hundred from the 75755 so probably not worth it. I have a small lawn that is only about 1/3 of an acre mowable and it has a gentle slope in the entire backyard of about 6-8., However, I have 22, 60+ year old (mostly) oak tree in my yard that makes fall cleanup by hand impossible for someone with a full-time job and two young kids at home. For the other two brands, you really should limit your towing to 200-250 lbs. Is 3 acres pushing the capabilities of the batteries too far? GREAT website. Its not the FX (commercial version) that everyone feels is the best engine on the market. Check Latest Price. Any thoughts on those? It has a normal seat but with the large front and rear tires, it really rides well. Great website and article! Speed is nice, but the landscape will keep me moving slow to stay in the seat. I am very new into this arena and have always cut with a walk behind. Owners never complain about grass build up under the deck. Agri-Fab Sweeper. With the warmer weather and the rain weve had in North Texas, especially the last and projected next week, I have rye thats about a foot tall right now! If you ever have any issues with it and you bought it from your local dealer you will get a lot faster service. What are your suggestions for my yard .35 acres, flat land, no trees in the back but I do have 3 in the front and on the side. This deck is the best cutting 42-inch deck in the industry and its very rugged a lot more rugged than a stamped deck. EL Mehdi (Medi), the founder and voice behind Desired Lawn Mower. The Kohler EFI and Exmark RED technology give you the power you need when you need it and will also reduce fuel consumption by 20% over other engines. Power: 24 hp. I suggest buying the size so that you dont keep more than a month of fuel around the house. Thanks, Hi Pam, They are both very high-quality machines. The Cub's transmission is a Hydro-Gear EZT 2200, and its tank is 0.5 gallons larger than the Toro's. The second choice is the Toro Titan with MyRide. Hi Mark, look under the seat. I think I would prefer the new one. Toro Titan (overkill) I have been trying to decide on a new mower. You can get the MyRide system on both the Titan and Timecutter if you please. My terrain is hilly and bumpy with just a little bit of flat land. He suggested to me a few brands that he thought would fit the bill: kubota, scag, exmark. I did mean to say the Ariens XD, whats your take on the Ariens Apex in comparison? The Toro V-twin is proving to be a very good engine so it really doesnt matter if you get one with the Kohler or Toro. Ariens or Toro? With the Toro in smart speed you can pull 450 lbs whenever you want but all the other residential ZTRs you are limited to 260 lbs. Also when it comes to brands, I see a lot of high praise here for Ariens Ikon. Dealer did mention that Cub Cadet is the hottest mower they sell now, even though he had a Toro shirt on ha ha. Its a heavy-duty mower and is stronger than the TimeCutter series so it will last mowing your lawn. But it only has lightweight EZT transmissions so using it commercially I would not expect it to last more than 3-5 years. Im not sure if Havener/Bradley would be buying decks and frames from Schiller/Bob Cat but Ill check next time I talk to them. Maybe Wowtac? I was looking at getting a new mower. Because that alone could be the difference maker for me. This in comparison with the ZT1s EZT-2200. Thanks. The Kawasaki option does not seem to be available unless I want to order through a big box store. 4. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Toro-42-in-22-5-HP-TimeCutter-Commercial-V-Twin-Gas-Dual-Hydrostatic-Zero-Turn-Riding-Mower-with-Smart-Speed-75742/310836498 Best in class seating( bad back) and have 4 to 5 acres to mower. You may not be able to see it with the seat attached to the mounting plate. Cut Quality: This mower cuts very well and depending on your grass you may be able to mow at 6-7 mph. Hi iamdgw, My first choice is the Gravely/Ariens ZT-HD/APEX. Unfortunately, the 50 inch is in high demand this year so you may have to go to a dealer to get it. Small ZTRS like the Ariens compact should NEVER be operated on any kind of slope. But then again, I might like the lighter Deere better for my lawn. I followed the company since the 90s and their equipment has always been built very strong for the price. CTRL + SPACE for auto-complete. Hi Morty, They dont list the tip speed but since they are advertising 7 MPH it will be at the max for residential mowers. I wish they didnt have so many mowers to choose from because it makes deciding that much harder. But that just wont be possible for under $3000. 452 cc Toro Engine. Their XLT, Challenger and Charger mowers a built very well, have very strong decks and deck support. Unless you have a dependable, local dealer, Id stay away from it. Titan IronForged Deck 24.5 HP Commercial V-Twin Gas Dual Hydrostatic Zero-Turn Riding Mower with MyRIDE, Cub Cadet Ultima ZT3 60 in. I like 60-inch decks but the 52-inch deck is plenty big for your lawn. In my opinion, the Iron-Forged deck cuts a lot better than the stamped deck on the model you mentioned. Heavy-Duty Fabricated Decks Built with many commercial components so the mower will take a beating Good for acreages, estates, farm lawns, farm ditches, and mowing pastures monthly. The Titan 48 inch with MyRide is easily the best riding and best cutting residential mower. The stronger hydros on the ZT2 will last much longer for you. I need a ZTR that can perform well on slopes. Now, if you have no one around when you are mowing and have strict instructions with all the kids and adults in your neighborhood not to come on your yard when you are mowing you may try lifting the side discharge chute high enough so the grass clippings spread evenly. My second choice is either the Toro or Cub Cadet 50 inch. Hi K.C., I never recommend buying used unless you are very mechanically inclined, have engine and transmission expertise and get such a good deal that you can fix all the little things that will go wrong. Here are my questions: if i am willing to spend between 6-7k.. what would you say is the best mower i can get (residential/commercial). Thanks for all your informative responses. The Toro comes in at 24.5 HP, while Kubota punches in at 25 HP. The Toro has the Smartspeed and is great for trimming, hauling, and learning how to drive the mower. Paul They both have heavy-duty trannys, thick, fabricated decks, and very strong frames. 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