The Yanagisawa 901 ( now the AW01 ) is a very popular alternative to the YAS-62 III so that would be worth a look or a second hand A-991, those horns are fantastic in every regard! I have an YTS-52.-It is true that this horn is closely the same as the YTS-62.? I also studied with Tim Price for a year or so back in the 90s. The box markings from Yamaha account for the revisions to a product, regardless of whether they are a new generation or a minor update. Yamaha certainly make excellent quality horns although personally I prefer my Selmer SA80 II alto because of its darker tone. The YTS-23 tenor sax costs about $2200 new and about $500 used. She went on to play in the USC Trojan Marching Band. For instance, Japanese speakers usually (but not always) have a particularly bright sound to them. i had hoped to upgrade from a conn selmer prelude to a more professional quality horn.there after followed a few other ventures into other highly acclaimed [by some] It is a Yamaha YTS-32 with a purple stenciled logo. I drove up to his house in Reading, PA. Good stuff all around. I forget where I am while I am playing. In 1990 we played with 2 Soviet Navy Bands. July 20, 2015 @ 2:21 pm. My high-school-aged son currently has a YAS-475 that I bought him used a few years ago. It played beautifully when I got it back. It responds immediately. They refused to pull their slides out and play at A 440. It has the smoothness of the 62 series with a fatter, full-bodied tone, its the perfect Yamaha saxophone for filling a room. I learned a lot. Doron Orenstein Reba Abrassart Worth YAS-475 costs around $1,800 new and in the $1,300 range used, while the YTS-475 costs about $2,300 new. In reality, they likely are getting you the current design, but the ethics reek. Yanagisawa makes some great instruments too. New models typically cost about $200 or so more than the YSS-675, but are generally in the same price range. What about the 61 series? tenors as well as two alto-saxes a prelude and a [martin]lewin.vintage, i have since resood the prelude at a slight gain. From what Ive been told and have seen Yamaha is trying to bring the pitch up to at least A 442. December 16, 2012 @ 8:36 pm. But it was several thousand dollars cheaper than the Keilwerth. You might want to check out this article series: https://www.bestsaxophonewebsiteever.com//is-it-worth-buying-a-pro-model-saxophone-part-i/, antonius smink Any recommendations? I have had very little work done to in relation to how long Ive had it. This constant quest for perfection can be quite confusing to the consumer as Yamaha does not make the process of figuring out the various Yamaha Generations very easy. My Navy Band was in a Tattoo with a Belgium Drum & Bugle Corp. Wow, I never knew that the military paid for musicians horns, but I guess it makes sense, especially when theyre putting you on a horn that you dont normally play (Ie: bari). Ive been playing a Yamaha YBS 52 Bari with a Beechler #5 mouthpiece for almost 14 years and I really like the horn a lot. So at some point, someone at Yamaha decided to move to what I call a Generation modeling scheme for their product revisions. Now you need to go back and tell the engineers to fix the instrument. Serial number in the low 3XXX range . Doron Orenstein Im curious as to what people think about the 62 tenor when compared to the yani and selmer alternatives But I give the yamaha altos a solid thumbs up! Before that instruments were made with pitches all over the place. March 24, 2014 @ 6:47 pm. I have read this series is better than 62 series. I would have the horn tuned to A concert perfect and the middle E was 40 cents sharp. Eventually, Yamaha corporate moved production on to another Mark II YAS-62II that is the Mark II model that we saw in the USA. My building is still a cool 72 degrees. I played my first solo 3 months ago just for a small group and my Fiancee was very proud of me. I have a YAS-31 alto with the purple logo on the very front of the bell . Ive heard good things about both, and Im leaning towards the YAS-875EX. So all those Mk VIs were buffed down & relacquered several times. The keywork is extraordinary, extremely fluid. Man I could tell you stories but another time). Doron Orenstein To quote Roger Eaton, Marketing Directory of Yamaha USAs B&O Division: The professional Yamaha YAS-62 and YTS-62 model saxophones have been the workhorses of the Yamaha saxophone lineup for over 30 years. I wish that I could give you an easy out on this one, but you simply need to do your homework. Doran, Some refer to these as 1st, 2nd & 3rd Generations of the 62. Initially I went through some mouthpiece changes, but once I settled on the Beechler its been great! https://www.bestsaxophonewebsiteever.com//is-it-worth-buying-a-pro-model-saxophone-part-i/, Debunking the Biggest Myth About Playing with an Open Throat, Is it Worth Buying a Pro Model Saxophone? I warm up again on the Yamaha and then play it into the tuner. Flashy technique and altissimo are all fine and good, but a rich, powerful, and distinctive saxophone sound that truly grabs your listeners is the hallmark of any great player. Of the 3 others, he liked the 875EX the leastand then it was basically a tie between the 82ZII and the 62III. Now a few other experiences. Many famous sax players, including Phil Woods, Bobby Watson, and Jeff Coffin all played a Yamaha sax. Thanks. The sound is somewhere in between a Conn 10M and a Selmer Mk VI. Thing is, without the correct methods, you're likely to waste time, looking for the perfect setup and trying to make sense of vague and conflicting instruction from books, videos, and private teachers. It gives me room to play with. From a G in the staff down I cant play very well. son plays looking to continue into the high school yearstherefore he shows great love for it I want to get a quality that will see him through. Then I knew I had to keep at it. During a Navy Band trip to NYC I was able to go around to the various music stores on 46th and 48th street to try the Keilwerth saxes. Yes they will give you a horn to play while you are in the band. Well I must tell you that was the absolute worst gig the band ever played. The Yamaha 875 Custom that they gave me had a very bright sound, to bright. What is a great brand for intermediate Tenors? December 15, 2012 @ 10:34 am. In the case of the Yamaha 62 Alto Sax, the first major revision became the Yamaha 62 Mark II Alto Sax (also referred to as the 2nd Generation), with an official part number: YAS-62II. The yani 901 is the best alternative to the 62 if hes interested and I hear that selmer have a new sax out called the seles Axos that is more or less the same cost as a 901, I had the chance to try one recently and I rather liked it I hope the sax searching goes well! There have been 5 official versions of the 875 Alto Sax. as for the tenor sax i now own 3 -Venus, Hanson t8, and my precious YTS62 == needless to say the Yamaha is everything they say it is ==but the point i make is this it was proof of the pudding is in the tasting.. unless you know trhe reliability of any given opinion, you can be persuaded of just about anything ,,to your COSTLY HORROR .not that they may be deliberately misleading anyone ,but all saxes generally differ from each other -even within same model ranges =and then there are the other variables mouthpiece, reeds, ligatures, tuning personal techniques,,, so i was blessed with the yamaha yts62 i got at a good price 1150 in near perfect condition [12 years old] BUT without the friendly and extremely helpfull staff at saxco london to guide me i would have continued making poor choices based on reams of reviews =there was no substitute for personal experience =they allowed me to see for myself the difference by a;;owing me to blow some wonderful instruments and then guided me to my own choice based on that so i will try for a YAS23 as i cannot now afford another 62 i hope it will be the right one [not a dud ] that i eventually get. I invested in an overhauled purple logo 62. So with that, Yamaha look for me to purchase and upgrade to the 82Z in the next coming months. Stay up to date with the new product announcments and Special Discounts available only through our newsletter! Music Equipment, Saxophone Brand Overviews. I absolutely love it. I am an adult thinking of learning to play the sax. All things being close to equal the Cannonball is several thousand $$ cheaper than the Keilwerth. However Yamaha seems to be on a campaign to do this single handily. Im wondering if the more modern Yamahas are better or will Selmers be a better all around horn? I know that Yamaha is a controversial brand. I have been playing it for two years now with difficulty. We did it by tape through the mail. February 17, 2013 @ 8:11 pm, I would say buy the best horn you can afford, unless you dont see yourself playing very seriously. Using an ARB wint Rico Royal #3. February 4, 2014 @ 2:42 pm. So as an experiment I pull out my Navy issue Buffet Green Line clarinet, warmed up on it for a few minutes and played it into my tuner. Starting from your mental concept of sound, to the breath, to the throat and the oral cavity (lots of cool overtone exercises here! Would the YAS-62 be the way to go? Perhaps the most versatile custom Yamaha saxophones, the 875EX series is best for skilled musicians who like to play many different genres. As such it was important that I keep the building nice and cool in the summer time. They are trying to convince the Navy Music Program to buy more of their instruments. I am glad I did. I have played a YAS-23 for about 7 years. The 62 is an excellent alto :) I think that its worth finding a horn that you like and then getting everything out of it before moving on, it saves a lot of money too! Again, I am using the saxophones as my reference for the discussion, but Yamaha also uses some of this generational model sorting in their other instruments as well. Ive only had minor things done to it. Okay so now I take the Green Line barrel and put it on the Yamaha clarinet. Unfortunately even though it still had a really nice sound and played in tune well the repair tech at Fleet Support said she would never be able to get it to seal perfectly. So if this horn is sharp in a cool building imagine how sharp it will be when we are doing gigs outside in the summer heat and humidity. I prefer that I start a bit flat, then warmup to the band. Also to the best of my knowledge the Navy Band Program never bought any Yamaha clarinets. If your horn came through another distribution office (different area of the world), Yamaha USA wont have the record. Since they sort their instruments by series (6 indicating professional), the inevitable jump to a new series number such as 7 could lead to confusion in the series designations. There are plenty of places where you can compare the differences between the various generations of instruments. As a result of these box markings, I commonly receive emails, phone calls & social media messages where customers claim that there is a new generational design that is available on the market when it isnt necessarily. pads, necks, case, etc). Plus the big bell on both the Cannonball and the Keilwerth make the low notes easier to play. While it lacks the legacy of the great vintage horns, as far as new horns that you can easily pick up today, Yamaha makes quite simply some of the best saxophones you can buy particularly if youre at the student level. Mostly this was the younger guys, especially the younger sax players. thank you all for that in put ,i am myself in the market for a decent alto and am watching a few on eBay ,U bid, Amazon etc.. there are a lot of horns out there on offer and when you try to research them on line you will find there are always 2 sides.i once researched a Venus tenor and after reading through a thread on a forum that had at that point been running for about 10 years -a lot of reading that took weeks- eventually with my decision largely influenced by a noted technician i purchased one In a cluttered marketplace, the 62 clearly stands out as the best combination of professional features and affordable price. (source: usa.yamaha.com press release announcing the 3rd Generation of Yamaha 62 saxophones). Yep, the YAS-23 is the go-to alto sax for beginners. Also, any thoughts on buying a very recent used horn versus a brand new one? However, that is Yamaha USA. YAS-82Z runs a hefty $3,200 new and close to $2,300 used, while the YTS-82Z is about $4,000 new with few used to be found. After playing it for several minutes I put it on my trusty tuner. Sounds like quite an journey youve been through finding a good horn to play. Larry Weintraub We always seek to keep customers informed and up to date with the best information possible, the truth! Yamahas tend to be warmer than the selmers and if you like your purple logo 62 then it might be worth just sticking to it and getting to know it inside out. This story is true and it is exactly how I experienced it. I played the clarinet for about a minute and then put it on my tuner. Due to the high-end materials used on this horn, the instrument is bit heavier than its less expensive counterparts. I heard him play at a gig in Va Bch and asked him why he wasnt playing his Selmer Balanced Action Tenor from the 30s/40s. Doron Orenstein These revisions are notated on the box with a // followed by the revision number. Then I switched to bari and played a Selmer Series 2 they had. Yamaha is known for constantly trying to improve their products. February 4, 2014 @ 5:07 pm. Mine has cancer and has fallen off the stage, been in motorcycle wrecks, and sat out on the stand most of the time, and still plays great. I tried them at the Sax Symposium at GMU near Wash DC for 2 yrs in a row. Yamaha might not be able to help either yes, you can contact Yamaha directly online here: https://usa.yamaha.com/. The 62 is in version // 04 which is the current iteration of the YAS-62III. Havent found a Selmer or Yana yet to demo. I just received my sisters tenor sax. Try to steer clear of quirky vintage horns as these can prove expensive and mouthpiece compatibility is always an issue as well as tuning A second hand YAS-62 Mark 1 ( pre 2003 I think please correct me ) is worth a look or if youre looking upmarket a second hand Selmer SA80 II or ( if you can find one, these horns seldom appear on the used market ) a Yamaha Z or a Yani A991 / W010. carlos roda cid I bought my son a Yamaha Custom in 99 and hes had no complaints. David Nichols In 66, I turned 17, and, in an effort to dodge the draft, joined the Army. Okay that is my take on the Yamaha horns. Thanks in advance for your help. Navy wise I just used their horns for big band (alto & bari) my horn for Jazz Combo (I was the leader so I had a say in controlling the environment we played in. That first Mark II 62 alto was offered internationally but Yamaha USA didnt adopt it and continued to have the original YAS-62 made and offered in the USA. Now this is good because when we play outside the whole band is going to go sharp. I believe right now they are making flutes and clarinets at A 442. Im a new student on alto. The durability of construction and quality of sound are legendary. February 18, 2013 @ 2:15 pm. Looking for info on it . Never had a draft card to burn, though. Yamaha 62 Alto Sax The Yamaha 62 Alto Sax is one of the most recognized professional alto saxes ever made. See below: Good question to educate. Im definitely considering the YAS-875EX, its a beautiful horn and when I tried it out, it filled the room. I have the YAS 62II and its awesome. I understand that the Yamaha soprano 82Z is pretty new on the market, but why is there so little critical review to be found posted? Sounds like youve gained a tremendous amount of experience that most sax players dont have. In the case of the current Custom Series saxophones for instance (82ZII and 875EXII), there was a pad change made in 2019 where Yamaha started to use the higher end Pisoni Pro pad, which has become a de-facto standard among top tier pro saxophones. Ive had this instrument about 10 years , but didnt really start using it heavily until I joined a local amateur community band about 3 years ago. So what I did was use the Yamaha for for Ceremonial Band gigs. October 18, 2016 @ 5:43 am. The sound isnt quite as oriented toward jazz as the 82Z, but depending on your skill, you can use it for many more genres of music, from the dark sounds in classical orchestra to the bolder rock tones. Most hits refer to just 475. When we bought it new at Sam Ash, I remember the guy saying it was the last of that model to be made where they were being made(Japan?) March 18, 2012 @ 10:13 am. The neck screw is also broken and the neck is just dangling most of the time. If he likes the 62 then it might be a winner and theres always the issue of mouthpieces ( the 62 is very flexible in this aspect ) meaning you could always improve the 62s performance without breaking the bank! Doron Orenstein Art Manchester Now I play a 65 King SilverSonic for soft stuff and a 79 YTS-61 for the hard stuff. This is how I ended up with the Keilwerth SX90R alto in my previous letter. The YTS-61 was half the price and played great out of the box. Also the bell had a notch cut out inside it that made the sound really project and spin. We tested a YAS-62III and a Cannonball big bell. If you continue to use this site we will assume that you are happy with it. If you were thinking about buying new the yamahas are far cheaper than selmer and yani horns ( the A901 was a joy to play, I prefer the 62 but thats a personal preference ) . A key cork was replaced, a few pads (Ive practiced a lot) and the repairman adjusted my keys. This would make distinguishing between designs easy. I thought it would maybe cost $700 at most. So that was it, at that point the band did not buy large amounts of Yamaha horns en mass. Ready to go Deep Into the Art of Building a Massive Saxophone Sound? The body may also be bent. The 62III was very clean and clearand maybe a bit brightbut definitely better than his 475. Part II. This is just another reminder to bring a tuner with you when you go horn shopping. Went directly from basic into the 60th Army Band at Ft. Polk, La. When the 62 first came out it was basically a Selemr MkVI copy. I showed him how the barrels looked to be the same size. In particular, the quality of the craftsmanship how the saxophone feels in your hands, how your fingers feel on the keys is most notable. There pitch was right with ours. Dont let them! They also will buy you the reeds you need for 3 months at a clip. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Also certain notes played extremely sharp, especially middle E top space treble clef. So go figure huh. That in effect ruined all those beautiful sounding Mk VI saxes. March 18, 2012 @ 11:21 am. At the time they only bought the altos. Its so soothing and relaxing when I play. The trombone players liked a horn called the Edwards trombone which the band ended up buying for them. Both are more modern designs and have each had multiple generations and revisions. Reading the Navy bandsmans tales brought back some foggy memories. Also a mid 80s YAS-23 if needed. Sadly, this is just not the case. Im actually looking into a new tenor because the tenor is the school,s horn and the school doesnt really have the money to get it fixed. We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. See back then, Yamaha kept the series number of 6, which indicates a professional series (60 or 600 Series depending on the instrument) but made the logical succession from 61 to the new replacement model of 62. The instrument itself looks rough. One goo question would be: Are there other Japanese designed and build saxophones which produce a warmer tone? I play on a yts-23 in my high school band. The most in tune clarinet I ever played. I can be verbose at times. It might be worth going to your local music dealer and just seeing what mouthpieces they have The 62 is really good with almost any piece and its a fairly warm sax compared to other ones out there. January 25, 2012 @ 10:15 am. He said it was wrecked beyond repair due to an accident. I think the YAS-31 is the same as the YAS-61 minus the engraving . Besides combo gigs were usually inside at a reception or under a tent. He is looking to move up to a new pro alto sax. For now, however, the 23 suits me fine. Your email address will not be published. Sax News and Brand Overviews / Now I said watch what happens when I put my Buffet Green Line barrel on it. Yup, 5. I still have ways to go but I put in at least an hour a day. Oscar, thanks for all the feedback. The clarinets pitch was dead on perfect. We went TDY to Mardi Gras, and, when I rotated overseas, the 296th Army Band handed me brand new Selmer MK VIs. Doron Orenstein Designed for intermediate players, the 475 series sound is richer with more body than the 23 series, making these saxes an excellent buy for Yamaha sax players who want to show off their growing skills. Wow, that is quite a story, especially how those Yamaha horns nuked your gig. February 5, 2017 @ 9:32 am. However, these revisions are not publicly listed anywhere for the customer to ascertain the difference of these revisions (hint, hint, Yamaha). We bought it for her when we lived in Japan in the early 80s. February 18, 2013 @ 7:20 pm. Sure enough the clarinet was 10 cents sharp. My secondary duty (which usually felt like my primary duty) was Building Manager. This means that the only way to determine your generation is based on the features present on your instrument! It was gently used when I received it and I couldnt have asked for a better horn at the time. More so than playing bari or alto. Obviously the cost difference makes the 62III dads choice. So, all in all, if youre looking for a beautiful and reliable horn, Yamaha wont disappoint you. Yamaha USAs records are also only searchable dating back to some time in the 1990s as well. It was slightly flat, between 5 10 cents, maybe 7 cents and some change. So on the YAS-875 Series, heres what the versions would be marked on the box: So to round out this discussion at least a bit on the other professional altos, the 82Z is currently in version // 03 which is a YAS-82ZII, with Pisoni Pro Pads. The YAS-62 costs about $2,500 new and $1,800 used, while the YTS-62 is around $2,800 new and $2,000 used. They said it was in very good playing condition despite the exterior scratches. I was issued a Yamaha 875 Custom Tenor Sax in my Navy Band in Norfolk,VA. For a gutsier, fuller sound thatll add an extra oomph to your soprano sax playing, the YSS-875EX is a great choice. So I wanted to attempt to clear up some of the confusion surrounding this topic. In any case, if theres a second hand horn youre interested in then give it a try but never buy without prior testing :). In the UK theres a brand called Trevor James who have a Signiture Custom range which are held in high esteem by many players and these are in the Yamaha and Yani price point, however, Im not sure about their availability in the US and theres always the P.Mauriat saxes if fancy lacquer is your thing Sorry for drifting away from the topic, in any case never buy blind ( Ive made that mistake with mouthpieces! *sigh* ), I hope this helped :), And a short note on second hand, theres no reason why second hand horns should be disregarded however make sure you have a look and try it out before you buy and see if you can have a trial period ( after a week with my second hand Selmer it needed some light work ) but if the sax is in good condition and it plays well its a fantastic way to buy a top instrument at great price essentially!
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