You can get a Craftsman Model 25081 for around $1450 and is the direct replacement to your old Craftsman. I have been blowing snow with my current lower as well, and plan to continue. For the same price or less as the 2015 X310 you can get a Craftsman Pro with larger tires, power steering, larger deck, arm rests, and a lot bigger Kohler 7000 Elite engine. Hello ! Cub Cadet dealers seems to becoming fewer and further between, but there are at least five that are closer than the Husqvarna dealer I found. Any thoughts on the unit? Do Google search using the trans part number. At the end of the season, it started jerking, and then it seemed as if the gears were mashing (usually during a turn). I don't if the T40 is as good or lightweight like the TL200. If you have questions then Ill be glad to assist. Correct, you PUSH the handle in the direction you want to turn the cart. One thing you should be aware of When you bring the CVT pedal to neutral it sets a brake inside the trans. Also, as all mowers get some bad reviews, Husqvarna has had more than their fair share of complaints. In a low gear ratio of 3:1, for example, the driven gear will turn three times as much as the main gear providing increased torque but since it's spinning three times as fast, the engine's speed (RPM) will quickly max out. Do narrower decks, e.g. I have had belts last 10 years in normal use and I have destroyed the belts in as little as a day trying to pull loads of dirt. To go right? Thanks for a great and informative website. This is the introduction of IHT Transaxle series K (K46, K57, K58, K62, K66, K72).In the field of gears, hydraulic equipments, transmissions, marine gears and mashine tools ,Kanzaki Kokyukoki Mfg. Paul Sikkema has been writing about snow blowers, riding mowers, and other lawn and garden equipment for over 10 years. There is no clutch in these tractors. Im just curious why a major component wasnt covered with their best in the business extended warranty. That is the engine that he had to work on. Hi Jim, I remember your tractor but I dont deal with used tractors on this site. Ive got a little bit of leeway on the price range if the quality and reliability warrant it. Im looking at spending no more then 1699 and really dont want to spend the money and find out I have invested in junk. I either need to rebuild it or replace. I was unable to get a parts break down of the Ariens but it does have a variable speed pulley on the top of the trans so it is not a true hydro. So it is noisier than a hydro. They will be able to quickly help you with your antique Craftsman. It is not allowing the mower to move on that side. Would this be a cvt variable pulley type? They can be found on garden and lawn tractors. How long has the industry been doing this? Notify me of follow-up comments by email. How well do you think this one would hold up for my around the property work compared to your first recommendation? Craftsman 20407 48 24 HP V-Twin Briggs & Stratton with TurnTight Garden Tractor.. along with a 12 gauge deck for the past 14 or 15 years. that said. Paul , is there any NEW info. 20 V-Twin HP Briggs & Stratton Automatic Gas Front-Engine 960460063 uses the automatic. This kind of differential will "lock" the left and right axles together so that they rotate as a single axle. You can see it here: Cub Cadet Lawn Mowers XT1 Enduro Series GT 50 in. If you burnt up the transmission in your last two yard tractors then the CVT is a better choice. Its true you get what you pay for when it comes to garden tractors (John Deere is the exception, except for their top of the line tractors and the Simplicity is still a better tractor). Personally, I would choose the E160. Please Subscribe to my YouTube Channel Please Note:If you click on most of the links in this article and buy any product I will make a small commission from that sale. Its commercial-grade, and I recall reading it has some of the strongest hydro motors you can buy; so I have no concern for that mower (other than the KawasakiIve never cursed at one object so muchsorry, cant express how much I hate that mill). 45 Loader, 47 Blower, Heavy Hitch Loader Tooth Bar, 54C Deck, 14 Bushel bagger & Power Flow, Ruegg Cat 1 3pt hitch, Heavy Hitch Weight/Drawbar, 13 Steel Dump Cart, JD Front Mount Thatcher, 36" steel roller, Ohio Steel 42CP Aerator, 7308 FEL w/ heavy duty bucket, backhoe w/ underframe, John Deere 190C Tractor Tuff Torq AM135071 K62 Hydro Transmission | eBay, Medium Frame Compact Utility Tractors (MCUT), Large Frame Compact Utility Tractors (LCUT). The $1000 ones like the Craftsman T1000 have a manual, shift-on-the-go transmission. Fallbrook has announced a commercial partnership with Hydro-Gear to bring NuVinci technology to the lawn & garden market. Any ideas? In the six months I have been using it I have noticed significant wear on the drive belt. This transaxle has a proven track record in a vast array of . There is one: Craftsman 54 Fast Auto 24 HP Briggs & Stratton V-Twin Turn Tight Garden Tractor Model 20408. The 20374 will work for mowing, and light pulling. Could the transaxle handle it? Which brings up a good point. The engine is good and will last. If you want green technology, no gas engine emissions and 30% less noise on your lawn this is an up and coming alternative to gas powered lawn mowers. Sep 1, 2020 / Tufftorq vs. Hydro-gear (again) - My convo with Tufftorq - comments? I currently have a 2000 or 2001 Craftsman LT 1750 ( 917.272220) with a Kohler Pro 17.5 hp and ?Automatic transmission? Hi Marvin, The E160/170 uses the same transmission as you had in the Bronco. But I want to replace these parts, but dont know what they are or what they do. Read more here: How to Support TodaysMower.com, At what RPM does the transaxle operate? On the 2015 & the 2016 models of the Craftsman Pro Series model # 20442 , 46 , 24hp Kohler engine, what # is the current transmission on this model # 20442 ? The engine, Briggs Vanguard, runs great and has been maintained well. This is the last year for it so dont wait. 489 sold. @Kathy & Jim, Sears will gladly send a tech out to diagnose and repair your problem. It make sense that it uses the same components to save money in manufacturing. and can I fix that problem?thanks,shane. Seat, deck size and engine brand are different the rest is all the same including the k46 tranny. With the rest of the tractor in excellent condition, including a Kohler K341 engine with only 200 hours, do I have any options to retrofit an entirely different transmission? I also would like to purchase 3 point tiller and snow blower as well. Chaska, MN Paul, I greatly appreciate your articles and education on riding mowers. You are used to the sounds of a passenger car. The difference in the two input shafts is that the K71 is threaded at the top rather than entirely splined. Expecting to get at least 15 years out of a brand new machine. Im thinking its either the transaxle or clutch. Over time we asked for lawn tractors that mowed faster, turned better and didnt cause so much damage. They offered it on a couple of Cub Cadet lawn tractors last year with a K46 but have dropped it for 2016. You put in a new fuse and it works for about 10 minutes and then blows the fuse. I have to watch what I spend (no more than $2,000). Very good info but I do have a question . Looking to purchase a second hand cub cadet rzt s46 with 426 hours on it. The CVT sounds like the transmission I will look for. I figured I'd check the magnet on the fill plug and if it's clean then I'll just change the fluid. I think I finely understand. It has the 6 speed manual transmission (which is bullet proof) I use the machine as a true ground engaging tractor, pull heavy loads,etc. Use this link to check it out on Sears.com: I dont exactly know why but I do know the Kohler 7000 and the Briggs & Stratton Husqvarna is using have great reputations. Buy an older one that's heavy duty already, or buy a newer model that's heavier. If you go and replace the fuse and it works againthe problem is the clutch. 24 HP V-Twin ELS. The lowest end JD lawn tractor I would consider is the 310 with a K57 iirc. If you like to work on them and you want to take the time you can sometimes get a really good deal on a tractor with a bad engine. All are Craftsmanmodel: 20409 (54 deck 24hp Briggs, 48 wheelbase, turn tight) and model: 27055 (54 deck 26hp Briggs, 40 wheelbase, turn tight extreme) and model: 27048 (50 deck, 26hp Kohler, locking differential, 40 wheelbase)no turn tightwhy?? Does your local SearsHomeTown Store still have one? Thank you for your comment. Hi Erick, No, each deck is designed for the stress. Hi Kenneth. It uses a friction wheel and disk to change the forward speed of your rider. Thats just not possible here. Cub Cadet is using it on all of the 2015 Enduro series and Troy-Bilt lawn tractors. Just mowing flat lawns they will hold up. Thanks. I have been using it to mow last fall and so far this year (my Dixon zero-turn has failed permanently) I also use it to pull 600-800 lb loads of dirt, sand and landscape rocks. What does a locking differential do? There should be less than 1/4 inch difference in height. Tuff Torq Aftermarket Services 6041 Hunter Road Talbott TN 37877. The K46 is basically a throw-away transaxle, while the K57 can be serviced to provide a longer life. The specs for both the K58 and K66 are pretty close. a tractor that will hold up to the hill and snow removal. There is a guy who offers a complete K66 upgrade kit here: K66 Upgrade Kits, Hey Paul, A forum community dedicated to John Deere tractor owners and enthusiasts. I will check an actual tractor tomorrow. The problem is after about 30 minutes of use reverse seems to get week (will work on flat ground slowly), but on an uphill it wont even move backwards. Thank you, Anthony. There are now seven types of transmission found in todays lawn tractors and zero turns. @Joe, HD has 6 different Ariens tractors this year. Its working even though the tractor has fallen apart. If replace, what higher performing transmissions would match up to my D140? Hi Randy, If youve had a Craftsman before with the fender shift lever the 25587s controls are opposite. That pump then drives an internal motor that runs a lot slower. Go back to the dealer where you purchased the tractor to get the parts. Will I have the same problem in the future? I have an older z 3050 toro time cutter. I would appreciate any suggestions. Get a set of original equipment blades (from a Simplicity dealer) and compare them to your blades. The hydrostatic drive started making a lot of noise this year. Ps I have a goat section, but dont know what life its had for the first 462 hrs. When it starts to fail figure out what you want to do differently next time. It should turn smoothly without grinding noises. I believe that most KUBOTAs comes with a KOHLER engine , correct me if Im wrong . Then take the two and make one. I run up and down some pretty steep grades pulling a trailer loaded with fire wood. They just have a few different options and paint color. I have a Craftsman 19HP, Model 917.20380 42 riding mower, purchased new in 2014. This is the "standard" transmission for lawn tractors with 42-50 inch decks and 18-20 inch rear tires. If it is then I suggest going to General Transmissions and get the correct OEM parts for it. It will not go up a hill. It has the 12 HP Brigs engine and the manual 5 speed transmission. 4. These transmissions are sized to the mower application so a lawn tractor trans is designed for mowing and light hauling. If you would like to move up to a V-Twin here is the review of the 20390. How as a consumer would I know if a machine has a light or heavy duty cvt auto transmission? I trust you or I wouldnt keep bothering you. What about the new composite axles? Any concern on the transmission of the ~2004 Simplicity Regent Hydro 14? About half of the negative reviews there are not for that tractor. Turn Tight Automatic Riding Mower. I dont know what division of Sears you are talking to. (I always change the engine oil with synthetic, every year) Lowes sent it to their service center and the service technician advised Lowes that the transmission failed along with valve covers are leaking and belts are worn. Spin the rear wheels by hand. There are going to be a few new models introduced sometime around March 1st. Good for maybe 100hours. Looks like they could be the element rs800 as theres no selector gear just petals.. And theyre not hydro.. Any idea? Hi Keith, yes, the John Deere LA 175 is a lawn tractor. Why? Fast & Free shipping on many items! The batteries alsodrives an electric motor that powers a cast iron geared transmission for the rear wheels. The extra speed will make a big dofference moving snow. I am especially concerned with the nylon composite transmission housing and potential for fatigue cracking due to vibration, etc. Is the only difference really just the carburetor? I may think about getting a tiller attachment, but dont think I can cost-justify the prices. This diagram is intended to document the resealing process only. But the transmission is a component that helps distinguish the different types of mowers available and makes each one better suited for certain jobs. The Red Craftsman, Poulan Pro and some Husqvarna GTs use the G730 Hydro-Gear. Hi Mark, Thank you for reading and I am very glad you found the correct mower! The 2015 Cub Cadets and Craftsman Pros use a K58 Tuff Torq. (Do you ever rate/review the Simplicity mowersI did not see it on a search of Todaysmowers.comI was impressed they used Vangard and Command enginesback in the day). Hi Bryan, 1. With the mower turned off sit on the seat and put your hands on the two large levers in front of you. You may want to talk to a large Toro dealer to see if it is cheaper to just replace the drive or if it can be rebuilt. An experts opinion will definitely help narrow down the search field with so many options out there. My parents have a slightly older Saber by John Deere, but the hydrostatic Trans needs to be rebuild. K46 transmissions are available for 18, 20, and 22 inch rear wheels. I have a leaf vac with a deck of same material and it has cracked around engine mounting holes and in various other locations on the deck. The tuff Torq site lists the specs on a comparison chart. I have been looking at the Poulan Pro PB20A46 with the 20 HP Kohler engine and the cvt transmission. The fuel cap is the same unit from the K46. I have a 2012 Husqvarna YTH 22V42 lawn tractor with 340 hours on it with the "DREADED K46 TRANSAXLE". Im looking at purchasing a Poulan Pro 42 in. Our local farm tractor supply store carries different models the Raptor SD and the Fastrak. The second tractor is a dealer only model. I know I want a 42 deck, 22 HP, 2 cylinder B&S engine, preferably Craftsman. I have a 1/3 of an acre flat but I weigh over 300 lbs, I was told that a garden tractor would carry myweight better. Co., Ltd. tries to solve the problems of our customers globally. . Im just wondering because if someone needs a replacement engine, they could buy whatever version of the engine block they can find the cheapest (possibly used) and use the old carb from their blown engine if thats the only difference. 2. Hi Max, If you have been mulching leaves the top of the transmission is probably just dirty. Go here to troubleshoot your transmission and get help. Thats 150 lbs. The D130. You can stall out a hydro to the point where the wheels stop. More importantly, Im a bit worried about how the hydro will hold up to handling my hills. According to MTD the T260 has the tough Torq k46 transmission, and the T310 has the hydro gear t2. They start around $5995. I tried to find out the difference between the 20HP through 25HP Kohler 7000 series (KT715-KT740) engines and have been unable to identify a difference except for the carb. Both, Richie Tractor in Knoxville, AND Tuff Torq who makes the worthless hydrostatic transmission in the thing laughed at me for buying it. Ive been told that this engine is very good & Ive been told by a mechanic who works for a KUBOTA dealer & he says that this engine is junk ! @Hank, There are no zero-turns under $4000 (residential) that will handle 20 degree slopes and last 10 years. Everyone uses the same transmissions so it doesnt have to be a Craftsman Mechanic. This type of transmission takes practice to keep the tires from digging into your lawn but with a little practice these are very easy to use. It, too, broke after less than a hour of use. They are good tractors and stripe your lawn automatically. This guide is here to help. My question is if the t2 transmission is better than the k46? Again these trans are designed for the application and most are not designed to pull loads, just mow and bag. Been keeping my searches around the 48+ sized decks and preferably under $2500. Husqvarna uses the G730 on garden tractors without differential lock and the K66 on garden tractors with differential lock. In fact the RS 800 Element V transmission is power rated very close to the most popular garden tractor transmission, the Hydro-Gear G730. Hi Joe, The Ariens Ikon and Gravely are the same mower so you can go to either an Ariens or Gravely dealer for parts. The new Craftsman tractors are really doing well. Because the transmission plays such an important role in handling speed, its also an important part of making sure that your mower has the right amount of torque to handle the most challenging backyard conditions: Lower gears might provide more tractions but can't go fast, and vice versa. Near the bottom of the page is a section called Inof & Guides Click on the replacement parts list. (traction control) This feature is found on very few lawn tractors and really makes mowing a safer experience. While its a tough tranny you have to have constant pressure on the foot pedal to make it go. They are both good machines for flat lawns, no hills and pulling only light loads. Or am I missing something here? Spin one wheel to see it spin. It is not a solid axle where both wheels drive at the same time. It will cost between $400 and $800 to replace the trans. The new Briggs Platinum is smoother than your old 21 HP boxer. For you I feel this may be exactly the mower you are looking for. It looks like some of the Cub Cadet GT and John Deere gt use the k58. I think the current price of K66 kit is $1600. What do you think about it and about the new EFI engine? In general, the K66 is a much stronger axle in every way. Thank you. It can also get too heavy with wet grass. Right now, Id gladly give $3000 for a new Murray like the one that I bought in 1989. The engine doesnt act like a brake, the trans itself holds the load. Used parts are sometimes available, but rarely cheap. Cant find any reviews and they are never in the ratings. Basically I want what I had-but I dont want to end up with a clunker. If the CVT still scares you here is my article with the other Poulan Pro tractors with Hydros. Marlton, NJ. That must raise a few eyebrows ! If you were potentially looking to buy a garden tractor sometime within the next five years (of 2015), what type of transmission would you most favor/wait for (besides manual)? The Kohler 7000 is a residential engine. It works fine though. Okay so that one would be okay for hilly yards then? Im not sure about the reliability of the website. You break it quickly. That was why I said read ALL the threads on the swaps people have done to make sure you know what you are singing up to do. So its opposite of the lawn tractor he has now. Thanks for your help. I suggest pulling the tranny out of the Sabre. 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